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PostSubject: Pinstar's Legacy Challenge Rules & Scoring Overhaul   Pinstar's Legacy Challenge Rules & Scoring Overhaul EmptyTue Mar 12, 2019 9:06 pm

Legacy Challenge Rules & Scoring Overhaul
Quoted from the post by Mystic 12 March 2019
It’s been a while since Pinstar and I had a chance to go over the rules and scoring of the Sims 4 Legacy Challenge with a fine-toothed comb, but we finally had a chance to do just that this past weekend.
We had been receiving many comments and DMs that the scoring as it was previously was far too difficult to keep up with now that there are so many new packs in the game. So we decided to take a look at what we had and update the scoring section of the challenge accordingly. Many of the scoring requirements have been drastically reduced to allow players to be able to enjoy the game without stressing over whether or not they are hosting enough parties or maxing enough skills. You can see all of the changes on the scoring page. The scoring sections that changed were as follows:

  • Family: Unchanged
  • Creative: Unchanged
  • Fortune: Unchanged
  • Love: The 10th point is no longer earned by completing both love aspirations in one lifetime. You will earn the 10th point by earning a set number of unique traits.
  • Athletic: Changed to 1 point for every 4 aspirations completed. The 10th point is earned by getting every unique aspiration in the game. (Toddler & Child included)
  • Nature: Unchanged
  • Food: Unchanged
  • Popularity: Changed to 1 point for every 9 medal points earned. 10th point requirement remains the same.
  • Deviance: Changed to 1 point for every 2 saved potions of youth.

As for the gameplay rule updates, the biggest changes here are that you will no longer be required to buy objects (Knight of the Octagon Table, etc) to get your Sim’s money down. You can just use the money cheat to change it to either §1800 for a regular start or §0 for an extreme start. You can also start on any 50 x 50 or 64 x 64 lot that you wish.
The other change to gameplay isn’t really a change, so much as it is an update on how we plan to go forward with this challenge. Pinstar and I have decided that updating the challenge for every single pack/expansion is making the challenge far too unwieldy. So we have decided to stop updating it after Seasons. You are more than welcome to use any and all future packs in your Legacy families as you wish. Those packs will not affect your overall score and can just be for fun.
We will continue to add new aspirations and traits to the random trait generators as needed.
Finally. We have a “new” Legacy Challenge in the works. The rules should be finalized for that by tomorrow. It will be announced once it’s ready!
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"You can see all of the changes on the scoring page. The scoring sections that changed were as follows:"
Sims 4 Legacy Challenge Rules – Scoring

A total of 100 points can be earned in The Sims 4 Legacy Challenge.
(101 if using a handicap)
(103 if using the Parenthood Pack)
(106 if using the Seasons Pack)
(107 if using Get Famous)

The scoring categories are as follows:
Family: 10 total points
The Family point category is the most simple of all. You gain 1 point per generation to have an eligible heir reach young adulthood.
The scoring goes as follows:

  • One point per generation
  • The point is gained when the current heir reaches young adulthood
  • The challenge ends the moment the 10th generation child is born, since this child does not become a young adult, the 10th point needs to be earned by doing the following:

    • The 10th point is obtained by having/adopting 10 children in a single generation

Creative: 10 total points
Documenting and honoring one’s fallen ancestors is paramount to keeping the family Legacy strong. While family members live and die, they die happy knowing that they will not be forgotten.

  • Founder/heir and their primary spouse must be memorialized per generation. 1 point each generation.
  • Ways to memorialize are:

    • Write a song for a Sim (Sim writing the song must have Piano, Violin, OR Guitar skill must be 8+)
    • Comedy routine (Sim doing the routine must have Comedy skill of 8+), routine must be done at least once during a party.
    • Paint a portrait by choosing “Paint from Reference” with a Sim with a painting skill level 8 or higher.
    • Write a biography about a Sim (Sim writing the biography must have writing skill of 10).
    • Create a Video Game in honor of a sim. (Video Games require a level 9+ Programming Skill)
    • Take a photo of a Sim. (Must be done by a Sim with photography skill level 5)

  • This will earn you 9 points since challenge ends as soon as 10th generation baby is born
  • 10th point is earned by having a single Sim complete two out of the three creative aspirations in their lifetime.

Fortune: 10 total points
While the founder starts off on an empty grass lot with pocket change to their name, a Legacy Family is expected to grow in wealth as more and more Sims succeed in life and bring in riches for the family to share and pass along to future generations. With the addition of The Sims 4 Get to Work funds from a business owned by the Legacy family now counts towards the family net worth. Funds from Veterinary Clinics in The Sims 4 Cats & Dogs will also count towards family net worth.

  • Points are earned by meeting the specific household worth thresholds as follows:

    • $75,000 = 1 point
    • $120,000 = 2 points
    • $200,000 = 3 points
    • $320,000 = 4 points
    • $510,000 = 5 points
    • $830,000 = 6 points
    • $1,300,000 = 7 points
    • $2,100,000 = 8 points
    • $3,500,000 = 9 points
    • $5,700,000 = 10 points (this MAY be replaced with having ALL Business Perks if your family owns a business)

Love: 10 total points
While the Legacy Family is the star of the show, one cannot deny the unique outsider perspective that the spouses bring in. A family with a deep and diverse array of lovers helps the Legacy Family grow both literally and in wisdom.

  • For every 3 unique traits that the Primary spouse (see the spouses section of the Gameplay Rules for more information on Primary spouses) brings into the family you gain 1 point for a total of 10 points by the end of the challenge.

Note: If playing with Seasons and using the Re-Traiting Potion only count the traits AFTER the re-roll of traits. Not the originals.
Knowledge: 10 points
Being skilled is one thing, but being a master at something is completely different. To demonstrate their mastery of many subjects, a Legacy Family must devote themselves to a life of study and practice if they ever want to be known for their skills.

  • You gain points according to the total number of skills that reach max level (either 5 or 10 depending on the skill) according to the following chart:

    • 3 skills reaching max level = 1 point
    • 6 skills reaching max level = 2 points
    • 9 skills reaching max level = 3 points
    • 12 skills reaching max level = 4 points
    • 15 skills reaching max level = 5 points
    • 18 skills reaching max level = 6 points
    • 21 skills reaching max level = 7 points
    • 24 skills reaching max level = 8 points
    • 27 skills reaching max level = 9 points

  • Toddler & childhood skills count for the above totals just as much as adult skills do.
  • The 10th point is earned by having every skill reach max level at some point during the challenge. (Including toddler & childhood skills, can be done by different Sims in different generations). This does not have to be done by one Sim.

Athletic: 10 points
It is the goal of every athlete to push themselves. To hunker down and through the pain and sweat and push themselves the extra mile in order to achieve greatness. This category is about pushing your Sims to greatness through the fulfillment of their aspirations.

  • For every four (4) aspirations completed you will earn 1 point. A single Sim can complete multiple aspirations. Childhood aspirations count.

    • 4 aspirations completed = 1 point
    • 8 aspirations completed = 2 points
    • 12 aspirations completed = 3 points
    • 16 aspirations completed = 4 points
    • 20 aspirations completed = 5 points
    • 24 aspirations completed = 6 points
    • 28 aspirations completed = 7 points
    • 32 aspirations completed = 8 points
    • 36 aspirations completed = 9 points

  • The 10th point is earned by completing every unique aspiration in the game across the entire family.

Nature: 10 points
All nature Sims love their collections, but a Legacy Family gets REALLY into collecting, and more than just rocks and frogs and such. Complete these 10 collections and be the envy of all collectors out there. You earn one point for each collection you complete. No partial points are given for partial collections. With the December update adding Business and Athletic, those careers are now needed to fulfill the career points in this category.
Complete 13 out of the 26 possible collections.

  • Have somebody die on the family lot in one of each of the 10 different ways to die = 1 point
  • There are 13 collections (out of 16 possible collections in the game) to complete to earn you points in Nature they are the following (these can be earned throughout the course of the game, NOT by a single Sim or generation) this will earn you a total of 5 points:

    • 1 collection completed = 1 point
    • 2 collections completed = 2 points
    • 5 collections completed = 3 points
    • 9 collections completed = 4 points
    • 13 collections completed = 5 points

  • Have Sims within the household reach the top level of each career track = 1 point
  • Have Sims within the household reach the top level of both branches of every career track = 1 point
  • Collect every single emotional painting type (Angry, Sad, Playful, Flirty, Confident, Focused) = 1 point
  • Collect and store on the family lot every single consumable aspiration reward = 1 point

Food: 10 points
The food category is a buffet of tasks for your Sims to perform. Some easy, some difficult, but all related to food.
Earn one point for completing each of the following:

  • Purchase the most expensive fridge and stove and fully upgrade both of them = 1 point
  • Have a Sim make a highest quality version of Baked Alaska, the most difficult to make dish = 1 point (NOTE: Baking the highest level baking dish can be done in lieu of gourmet cooking to satisfy the ‘Highest Quality version of Baked Alaska’ point.)
  • Have a single Sim max the cooking, baking (if you have Sims 4 Get to Work) gourmet cooking, and mixology skills = 1 point
  • Have Sims complete both food aspirations in a single generation, they can be done by two different Sims = 1 point
  • Have a Sim get fat from your family’s cooking = 1 point
  • Have at least six Sims (family members or guests) all sitting at the table eating at the same time = 1 point
  • Reach the top of both food career branches = 1 point
  • Cook a meal with at least two fresh ingredients that are of the highest quality = 1 point
  • Have a Sim make their date a max-quality meal or mix a max-quality drink during a single date = 1 point
  • Serve a max-quality party-sized meal and mix a max-quality drink and serve both during a single party = 1 point
    Popularity: 10 points
    The only thing more legendary than a well-developed Legacy Family house is a Legacy Family house party! Making your home party central for the region will have everyone wanting to make friends with the family in hopes of securing an invite.
    Points earned depending on the medals you earn from parties and dates. (This includes Toddler Playdates if you have the Toddler Stuff Pack)
    Gold medal = 3 points – Silver Medal = 2 points and Bronze Medal = 1 point
    You will need to keep track of how many medals you earn in each date or party in order to tally the totals up correctly. These medal points are tracked throughout the entire Legacy
  • 9 Medal Points = 1 point
  • 18 Medal Points = 2 points
  • 27 Medal Points = 3 points
  • 36 Medal Points = 4 points
  • 45 Medal Points = 5 points
  • 54 Medal Points = 6 points
  • 63 Medal Points = 7 points
  • 72 Medal Points = 8 points
  • 81 Medal Points = 9 points
  • The 10th point is earned by having a single Sim get a gold medal in all the different types of parties AND a gold medal on a date. (This can be replaced by having earned all possible club perks in your Legacy club instead.)

Deviance: 10 points
Many think of evil and mischief when they hear the word ‘deviance’ but in reality they are merely a Sim expressing their impulsive desires in a form that is harmful to others. Not all impulsive desires are harmful, but giving into them is the name of the game here. Now, condensing all their hard work into an elixir that they will never benefit from? Yeah that’s deviant.
Points are gained depending on the total number of potions of youth that are kept somewhere in the Legacy House unused. It is recommended that you keep these in a small room that Sims don’t have access to so they don’t accidentally drink them.
Potions of Life cost 1,500 aspiration points each.

  • 2 Potion of Youth = 1 point
  • 4 Potions of Youth = 2 points
  • 6 Potions of Youth = 3 points
  • 8 Potions of Youth = 4 points
  • 10 Potions of Youth = 5 points
  • 12 Potions of Youth = 6 points
  • 14 Potions of Youth = 7 points
  • 16 Potions of Youth = 8 points
  • 18 Potions of Youth = 9 points
  • 20 Potions of Youth = 10 points

Parenthood: 2 Optional Points
These points are optional and only if you own the Sims 4 Parenthood Pack.

  • 1 point if you are able to get ALL of the upbringing traits (both positive & negative) at some point in the family (will not be on one Sim, but throughout the family history) this is not per trait, but in total
  • 1 points if you are able to have a single sim grow up with all 5 traits manifesting (they don’t all have to be positive)

Seasons: 3 Optional Points
The Legacy Family Holidays: 
Upon the death of your founder, create two new holidays. One must fall on the day your founder died. This holiday may be given any name, but must have only one tradition assigned to it: Remembrance.   The second holiday should be created on the day your founder began the challenge…the 1st day of whichever season you started in. This holiday must also contain only one tradition. You may freely pick this tradition, but it should be a reflection of your founder. Either something they like to do, or a representation of their personality or a major life event that happened to them.   With the death of each heir, add ONE tradition to EITHER of the two family holidays (but not both). This new tradition should also reflect something related to the heir that just died. Continue this as you play through your challenge adding a new tradition with the death of each generation’s heir. (Please note: The traditions will be added up to the death of the 8th generation heir. The 9th and 10th generation heirs will not get a tradition as they will still be alive at the end of the challenge. This is why the founder gets two traditions and not one.)   Both holidays should qualify for days off from work/school. You may name either holiday whatever you want and may choose whatever decoration theme you wish (if any).   Scoring:

  • 1 point once one of the two holidays reaches a total of 5 traditions
  • 1 point if you are able to have an heir reach gold level celebration status for a 5-tradition family holiday.
  • 1 point if you are able to have all active members of a legacy household reach gold level celebration status for a family holiday.

NOTE: If you already have an established Legacy and are already a few generations into the challenge you can retro-actively add the two holidays in and add any traditions that apply. So for instance if you are already in the 5th generation, you’d add 2 holidays and then two traditions for the founder, and any additional traditions for the previous heirs that have already passed on.
Handicaps (adds 1 or 2 extra points)
With the addition of The Sims 4 Get Together you now have the option of including one handicap to your Legacy challenge that will net you an additional point if completed (which means that, yes, it is possible to now get more than 100 points in a Legacy)

  • Extreme Start (worth 1 extra point)- Follow the rules for this start in the Getting Started section, there are variations of it depending on which expansions you have.


  • Ultra Extreme Start (worth 2 extra points) – Follow the rules for this new start in the Getting Started section.

Penalties: -3 points total
Nobody likes to think about the bad things in life. While your Sims are certainly expected to have their ups and downs, there are some downs that are especially low and reflect very poorly on a Legacy Family if they ever happen. This is a point category like all the others, except all points here are negative and subtract from your total score and your goal is to obtain 0 points here.

  • -1 point every time the power is shut off due to unpaid bills
  • -1 point every time the plumbing is shut off due to unpaid bills
  • -1 point per child/infant taken away by social services

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