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PostSubject: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:03 am

Rain In My Shoes – Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life
**Also posted on EA Sims 3 Forum**

How will this work? That is to be determined after some testing and revisions.
Rain In My Shoes is a modified version of a combination of existing challenges but especially Cyron43's Rags to Riches Challenge.
Credit: Thanks to Cyron43 for the Rags to Riches Challenge.
Now ... basic concepts /guidelines.
Goals: Start with an empty lot (See Seasons exception) and empty pockets and work your way to the top.
#1. Establish a base lot and begin exploring for food and sellable goods. *No Taxi or public transport*
#2. Make at least 500 S - This unlocks transportation options. You can use Taxi or any transport available.
#3. Make at least 5000 S to unlock self-employed option.
#4. Earn enough to buy /build a real home. Guidelines below.
#5. After meeting all the requirements for a real home you may continue to be self-employed or choose any career.

Criteria for Completion:
Be worth one million Simoleons and complete Lifetime Wish.
Worth is determined by adding cash in hand plus household worth plus any businesses owned.

The Sim Victim ... uh Volunteer for this project:
*Start a fresh household with no skills.
*Can have single Sim or a couple or YA/Adult with child - children.
*Remember this family is homeless and even those children need to be in school.
*Toddlers would need a crib and have ONE toy. [See Housing Notes]
*Favorites, Traits and LTW are players choice.
*CANNOT start as a Supernatural but can convert after certain criteria is met. [TBD]

Housing - Homeless:
*Empty lot to begin. With Seasons this could be a very short challenge without shelter.
*Sleeping bag IS allowed.
*Tents usually require Travel (World Adventures). They are available in buydebug and are not free.
-->Pondering if tents will be allowed in the beginning.
*Can visit community lots for a quick meal or nap but CANNOT live there.
-->How many RL fire stations or gyms would let you freeload?
*Toddlers require a crib and can have ONE toy so choose wisely.
*Children must attend school and the parent / guardian must provide food for the children.
*Teens also must attend school and cannot have jobs until certain criteria are met.

Income and Jobs:
*NO job to start... not even self-employed until your Sim has a house with the required items.
*Start at ZERO funds once placed on the lot. See Tips.
*You may make money by collecting gems, metals, insects, butterflies, minor pets and fishing.
-->These can be sold direct from inventory, donated to the science center, sold at the grocer or by consignment.
-->Selling artwork, sculptures or inventions can be done after your Sim can afford the equipment.
-->Collecting scrap and using the workbench at the fire station (Requires Ambitions) is acceptable.
-->Alchemy station at the Elixir Consignment shop can be used to learn the potions.
>>HOWEVER ... potions / elixirs cannot be created and sold from there until certain goals are met.
*Mooching for food and money as well as rummaging is acceptable.
*Harvesting from public community gardens is allowed.
Transportation - Getting from here to there
*No Taxi, Subway or LLAMA Teleport until funds reach 500 S (S=Simoleons)
*To begin your Sim can walk anywhere. You may need to click a short distance and use 'Go here' command. This is a bit tedious at the beginning but can be done. Just get some gems, seeds, produce or fish and sell for quick money.

Co-existing with Seasons and Other Points of Game Play:
*Suggest four walls with a roof and door ASAP. Only big enough to use sleeping bag to sleep out of the rain.
*NO Toilet, Sink, Stove, Refrigerator to Grill to begin. Use public facilities until funds reach 500 S.
*Self-employment can begin after making 5000 S and your Sim has a real home.
Self-employed careers include Gardener, Sculptor, Painter, Inventor, Writer or Alchemist. Showtime Careers are not considered self-employed.

A lot is just a lot until it becomes Home Sweet Home: A little definition is in order here.
*You may choose your first lot as small as you like. Remembering you start with nothing the smaller the better IMO.
*Beginning lot is basically empty with the allowance for Seasons.
*Seasons requires shelter no matter how meager.
*ALLOWED for Seasons - four walls and a door and roof. No plumbing and no appliances or skill objects or mood enhancers. As your Sim makes money you can start to add on.
*You can stay on this beginner lot or move to another one once your Sim can afford the purchase price.

Making a Home out of nothing:
*Before getting a 'real' job you will need a home. It does not need to be huge or elaborate but must include the following:
>>Four walls, a roof and a door along with windows, wall coverings and floor coverings.
>>Toilet, Sink, Shower or tub.
>>Bed
>>Refrigerator, Stove and at least one empty counter.
>>At least one chair or a couch.

Consideration of EPs
-World Adventures: You cannot travel until you have an established home.  You can sell any relics or treasures found while exploring.
Hint: On your first trip to China pause after landing at base camp. Click on the bookcases and take all the books. Save these for when you get home then sell from inventory or at consignment. Makes for a sweet bonus. Also suggest you buy at least one copy of the recipes available to save a return trip.
Ambitions: All these careers are allowed after you have an established home.
-Showtime Careers in this EP are not allowed until you have an established home.
-Supernatural: Since Supernaturals have the ability to conjure food from nothing you cannot start as a Supernatural. You cannot use the Genie lamp until you have an established home and full time employment. You may convert to Supernatural by asking to be turned, converted or bitten or whatever. Use of a purchased or created elixir is also allowed after you have an established home
and full time employment.
-Seasons: See allowances under housing.

Cheats and Mods generally are NOT allowed with a couple of exceptions.
Allowed:
*ResetSim * can be used if Sim is stuck and cannot be released in any manner.
*MoveObjects on/off (MOO) can be used when building or decorating.
*ConstrainFloorElevation False/True (CFE) can be used for building.
*NRaas Consigner Mod http://nraas.wikispaces.com/Consigner can be used to optimize income from selling goods.
*Other NRaas Mods: http://nraas.wikispaces.com **Master Controller for checking status to report progress. **Story Progression as long as it does not provide unfair advantages.
*Game Settings to control Animal / Supernatural Populations.
*Game Settings to Control Celebrity status. (Can allow Celebrity Status after Sim has a house.)
*Game Settings to allow for regular OR long life span.

Not Allowed: *Any Mod or Cheat to boost or freeze needs.
*Game Settings for EPIC life span are NOT allowed for this challenge.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:04 am

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:05 am

Directory of Players:  Join the fun!
EuphorialQueen *EQs Test Run* Rain In My Shoes: Kitt Peregrine in Twinbrook
BUTTONSGINGER Rain in My "Barbie" Shoes: What happens in Lucky Palms Stays in Lucky Palms
LMFAO LMFAO's Rain In My Shoes Attempt (Challenge by EQ)
Lionpaws lionpaws' "Rain In My Shoes" exploring Monte Vista
Rheassi Rheassi's Rain in my Shoes Challenge in Lucky Palms
k2m1too's Rain in My Shoes: Rummaging in Riverview
Susinok Upon Us All A Little Rayne Must Fall - Rain in my Shoes Challenge - Startlight Shores
dillonpierce Claire's Reign of Terror. Claire Porter - Bridgeport
Rawla-SIMyth Rain in My Shoes: Dragonhearts Never Quit
MerryWiddow Rain In Kermit's Shoes
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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:05 am

Summary of Game play suggestions and additional Guidelines.
These are ideas and suggestions that come from you as you play this challenge.
Money Tree - May not cash in the harvest but should your Sim gather some they can be gifted to another Sim outside the household.
Gambling - Players choice. Since there is just as much chance of losing you may choose to gamble at your own risk.
Bonus Rewards like Complimentary Entertainment or Dicount Diner may create unfair advantage.
Steel Bladder and No Bills Ever rewards should not be used either. Inheriance should be restricted or not used at all.
Wishing Well - Any wishes EXCEPT Wealth.
Tree of Prosperity / Fountain of Youth - Eating the fruit of the Tree of Prosperity provides an instant gain in a random skill. Fountain of Youth grants an extra day. I rarely use these items but would put very strict limits on either.
Added Mar 03, 2013
Dumpster Diving Allow (at any level) for collecting and selling random items for extra income.
Added Mar 09, 2013 for University Life
Optional Goal - Earn at least one Degree to complete the challenge.
A RL College student would do odd jobs or work part time to supplement tuition, buy books and supplies.
Accepting the Day Jobs and Donating would be okay as well as Posing at the Art School and are part of the Uni experience.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:05 am

What I learned during this run.

  1. Having a second person in the household allows the primary Sim to concentrate on collecting.
  2. Having children during the challenge is fun but I took advantage of boarding
    school to give the kids a skill boost. Also helps avoid social workers.
  3. Smelting metals adds to their value.
  4. Cut gems are more valuable especially heart shaped cuts. Using the gem cutter from Supernatural saves ton of cutting fees.
  5. Tiberium in Spire cut should be left to 'grow' before selling. Tiberium dust will also grow to a mature stage worth about 35-40K Simoleons.
  6. Searching neighbors trash bins can be very profitable and worth the stinky trash.
  7. Collection helper and Suave seller are helpful tools.
  8. Consignment can yield a profit. Be sure to start consigning produce and small items to gain a good consignment reputation. The better your reputation the less the consignment fee.
  9. Seasons means lots of Wild Flowers. Indian Blankets and Cosmos (flowers) are worth the effort because they sell immediately for $400-$600 per bloom.
  10. Pets can help collect valuables. Cats hunt down minor pets and birds and also go fishing. Dogs help sniff out Metals and Gems.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:11 am

This looks awesome EQ. I can't wait to start a game! Now, let's see, must get a victim....ermmm...I mean sim cackle

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:07 am

This looks very interesting so I started a game today in Monte Vista, I will open a thread and post pics in the morning my time lol a couple of questions though can you stay at another Sims house if friends with them and they agree, and can you crash the house until they kick you out. I have done those with my Sim but didn't know if it was breaking a rule. Does the no community lots sleeping include parks, they can be known to house the homeless from time to time. I have had a lot of fun with it so far Smile

Just to make sure as I haven't played challenges much when my Sim needs 5000 Simoleons is that total house funds and value or just funds/available Simoleons ?
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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:04 am

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A couple of questions though can you stay at another Sims house if friends with them and they agree, and can you crash the house until they kick you out.
Early on you are a stranger to everyone. If you do become friends and they agree you could stay ONE night. Then later maybe another night.
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Does the no community lots sleeping include parks, they can be known to house the homeless from time to time. I have had a lot of fun with it so far Smile
You CAN sleep on community lots but cannot make it your home. An example would be the fire house. It has beds, showers, TV, books, music and fridge. It is conceivable to live there almost like having a house. Existing off the land until you are established in your own home is the idea. So while you can sleep on a bench anywhere you must keep on the move to avoid being arrested as a vagrant. Ok ... that does not happen in the game but it could in real life. Wink
@LMFAO wrote:
Just to make sure as I haven't played challenges much when my Sim needs 5000 Simoleons is that total house funds and value or just funds/available Simoleons ?
For this challenge the first goal of 500 Simoleons is cash on hand. It would be unfair to include the value of the land as this could be easily met just by moving onto a lot. The goal of 5000 Simoleons is total worth. Cash on hand plus household worth. Yet another reason to start with Zero Simoleons and an empty lot.

Edit: On my next run thru I will use the 5000 Simoleons goal as Cash on hand. Just so I can gauge how long it would take. I did wait during the test run for the house requirements to be met before gaining a housemate / spouse. The marriage added about 2600 Simoleons (I think) but Kitt was already over 10K cash on hand at that point.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:52 pm

Posted a link on EA forum
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*EQs Test Run* Rain In My Shoes: Kitt Peregrine in Twinbrook

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:01 am

Bumperdoodle on your TS3 thread. I've Bookmarked it.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:38 am

If your sim has the kleptomania trait, can they steal things to earn a living?

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:15 am

@Dini60 wrote:
If your sim has the kleptomania trait, can they steal things to earn a living?
Yes that is allowed.
Edit: That would work especially well with the LTW:
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Possession is Nine Tenths of the Law: 30,000 Lifetime Happiness Points Traits That Inspire This Lifetime Wish: Kleptomaniac Goal: Possess 50,000 Simoleons worth of stolen goods. Tips: Your Sim will need to be a kleptomaniac, and perhaps in the criminal career track to approach this wish with all you've got. Klepto high value items from wealthy neighbors, such as televisions and nice cars, to make it go faster
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http://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/lifetimewishes/


Edit II: Well you could sell things at first or have another career along with this one. When reading this again I realize you must POSSESS 50,000 Simoleons worth of stolen goods.
But in any case the answer is still 'Yes' to use the kleptomaniac trait to its full advantage to make Simoleons.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:24 am

What about selling the gifts we receive in the mailbox for simoleons?

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:33 am

@Buttonsginger wrote:
What about selling the gifts we receive in the mailbox for simoleons?
Thank you for reminding me about that point. What say ye all? Smile
My thought:
The mailbox gifts can be used to furnish your humble beginnings lot but cannot be sold.
AFTER the actual house is established you can sell the items to supplement income.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:34 am

I would agree with that . Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:42 am

I want to keep this a challenge and not too easy. I consider it a way to being more creative in my game play. I find that having played the game for so long I use a sort of formula or routine. Eventually that could make the game boring.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:51 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:02 am

Hi I thought to post the Nrass traffic mod will manage all taxi's and anything Eles. you can tell it to not allow any Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:06 am

Good tip. I stick with Overwatch and Master Controller myself. And sometimes Consigner. I just forget about some of the others.
Are you going to join in? I hope you do. I found it a lot of fun when Cyron first posted it.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:19 am

@EuphorialQueen wrote:
@Buttonsginger wrote:
What about selling the gifts we receive in the mailbox for simoleons?
Thank you for reminding me about that point. What say ye all? Smile
My thought:
The mailbox gifts can be used to furnish your humble beginnings lot but cannot be sold.
AFTER the actual house is established you can sell the items to supplement income.

*Opinions please*

You could ignore the gifts.
I think most have more than one game they play, and if it is only for building. The gifts could be accepted there.

And ... I love that there is a new start to this chellenge! Thanks EQ! Cool


Of course there are questions I have:

What about the LifeTimeHappiness rewards?
Which can we use?
I'd suggest some should be not allowed, like for example Steel Bladder or No Bills Ever.

What about marrying a rich person?
I guess it should be allowed after one has an established home?
Or maybe even having earned more, $30,000 possibly?


I'm sure more questions will pop up during play.
Ah yes! I'm totally going to explore MonteVista with this new challenge.

I'll let you know when I've set it up.

Happy Simming everyone!
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Here you can read about my attempt: http://ts3cc.canadian-forum.com/t1018-lionpaws-rain-in-my-shoes-exploring-monte-vista#27392
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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:01 am

Hoorah! Welcome to the RIMS [Rain In My Shoes] Challenge Smile
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Not Allowed: No Bills Ever, Inheritance, Steel Bladder
Allowed: I will go over the list but most all - even the new ones - would be allowed. If you run across a questionable one just ask. Wink
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What about marrying a rich person?
There would be a restriction especially in the beginning. From my own saves I found that marriage to a wealthy Sim does not guarantee instant wealth. If the Sim is in another household with others the overall wealth does not transfer to your active household. Mine gained just over 2,000 S.
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I guess it should be allowed after one has an established home?
Or maybe even having earned more, $30,000 possibly?
Yes ... MUST have an established home for any marriage.
They MUST move to your lot not vice versa.
If you suspect (or know via Status review with MasterController) they are wealthy please wait until your active household is worth $30K. Thank you for the suggestions.

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:56 am

@EuphorialQueen wrote:

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What about the LifeTimeHappiness rewards?
Not Allowed: No Bills Ever, Inheritance, Steel Bladder
Allowed: I will go over the list but most all - even the new ones - would be allowed. If you run across a questionable one just ask. Wink

Ummmmmmm....Barbie wants to be clear.....are you saying NO to Steel Bladder/Inheritance/No Bills Ever?

I see Barbies lip starting to pout.....

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:41 am


Razz to Barbie
Bills will fly in no matter what and don't count on a rich unknown relative dying!

@ EQ: I found "Hardly Hungry"
It's costly, but still I don't think a Sim could live without eating. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:43 am

It's the steel bladder we love!

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PostSubject: Re: Rain In My Shoes: Rags to Riches Revised for Seasons & University Life   Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:46 am



Haha! I never use that Whistle
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